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On this special edition of Scruffy Thinking and That Post Show -- or is it That Scruffy Post Show -- we have assembled the Avengers of the Post Production world for an all out assault from another dimension: Michael Kammes, Patrick Johnson, Christopher Harrington and Zack Arnold.

Oh, and if you haven't already seen The Mac Pro Challenge, head over to MacProChallenge to see why we are having this conversation.

I take the position that there WILL BE a new Mac Pro before Aug 1. My nemesis, Michael Kammes, takes the other position -- there will NOT be a new Mac Pro.

We also have Christopher Harrington, Patrick Johnson and Zack Arnold on the show.

And the winner is...

For writing a review in iTunes, Robbie Roof wins a free t-shirt from FilmTees and Hunter Hilligas wins a copy of Final Draft. Head over to Scruffy Thinking and contact us to claim your awesome prize.

Alternate Show Titles

• The Mac Pro Challenge
• New-ish Mac Pro
• The certainly put the badge on it
• Redefining Professionals
• Thunderbolt is the Second Coming

Sponsorship

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Kanen Flowers

Kanen is the troublemaker behind Scruffy Thinking. He writes a blog, writes code and generates words and pictures, sometimes together. You can follow him on twitter or check out his company at Scruffy.TV.

Michael Kammes

Michael is on twitter where he talks smack about how Apple has abandoned the Pro market. He is also at Key Code Media, presumably doing something "really technical" over there.

Zack Arnold

Zack Arnold is the editor of Burn Notice (starting in Season 4, when it gets really good) and The Bannen Way. His IMDB Profile shows a story of hope (scattershot as it is).

Patrick Johnson

Patrick Johnson is an indie filmmaker, living in Texas, and a principal at HOLD IT NOW! FILMS. Several of his films have been distributed, including She's Crushed. He's currently working on a web series called GLITCH.

Music and Lyrics

Information about the music and lyrics for the shows, available at Scruffy Thinking: lyrics.

Show Notes

Check out the Mac Pro Challenge for details about this conversation.

Also, for fun, check out the Geekbench results where a 2010 Mac Pro still dominates the benchmarks.

Nikon D5100 Commercial shot on a Nikon D5100.

Mac Rumos Buyers Guide says "Don't Buy" but shows the Mac Pro as "x days old" - at this link

Walter Biscardi's attack against everything, on the Creative Cow is worth a read.

Forbes says, New Mac Pro by 2013

Facebook petition for a new Mac Pro is gaining some momentum.

This cracks me up: Build a dream mac

First person to say, "I'm moving to Windows!" has to buy everyone a Vosqes Kiril and Duke Hat Box -- or, am I kidding?

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